Books, TV programs, movie franchises. You enjoyed them, but at some point you soured on them. Bunny enjoyed the books of Clive Cussler, _Raise The Titanic fame. Mindless fun, adventure, and some historical treasure found. But, he started writing himself into the stories. First just an encounter, and later, entire chapters with him in it. Takes you out of the story. Happy Days. Not the shark. It was when the studio audience would wildly cheer the actors when they first appeared on screen. The mother would glide in, arms spread, acknowledging the applause. That killed the image of it not being something staged. What, if anything killed it for you? J.P. Bunny